You don't seem to have a free shapers brain, because you are prompting your opinion (couldn't resist this reaction) My "commonly accepted view" is formed during workshops with well known international trainers. And I'm not the person to just follow an opinion, I think it over. I always bring a long "my scrapbook", what I believe in I put in there. What I don't believe or can't use I throw away or put it in the back of my book. But maybe you're not aware of the mix of methods you are using. 100 repetitions is quite normal in luring as I know it (when the brain is "stopped", just to get the muscle memory going). I think we both are talking about a different way of luring. As long as it works for your dog ... I'm happy for you. And I still have a lot to learn. OH, YOU LIKE ME ??? Now I'm going to bed. Day will start early tomorrow.