The shelter I volunteer at has a very large mixed breed dog that was abused. I think he might have some mastiff of some kind in him, and possibly some pit although I'm really not sure. I've only seen him a few times. He was found wandering with a heavy chain embedded in his neck. He was brought to the shelter, and they had this removed. He has wierd scarring all the way down his back in an odd pattern...it is very wide and goes from the base of his neck almost to his tail. It branches out in three places on each side into other short, wide scars. He has random scarring throughout the rest of his body. According to the shelter owners, Hooch is not a "mean" dog, but he is so strong that walking him is a danger and a challenge. His only behavior problem that they have warned me of is that he will (try to)kill male dogs if he is with them. Of course they have never let this happen, so they have not had any real issue with this. He has gotten away from some people who have walked him, so on his pen is a sign that says "Do Not Walk." I have spoken to the owners and they have cautioned me simply to be careful and make sure that I do not attempt walking him alone. The poor guy hardly ever gets walked because so many volunteers that come to this shelter simply see the sign and don't ask questions. I have never worked with dogs abused to this degree, and I have certainly never worked with dogs who have had embedded collars. If Hooch was leash-trained he could at least get more exercise, and eventually I would like to teach him more. His chances of adoption are slim to none right now. Anyone have any suggestions on how to work with him? By the way, I am not simply taking this dog's training on my shoulders with no knowledge or experience with abused dogs. I am simply asking for suggestions. I realize that the first suggestion will be to consult a professional, and I will be looking into this first thing in the morning. :dogsmile: I am not just jumping into something I cannot handle.