I have read several dog training books by different celebrity trainers, and there is one, Tamar Geller, who trains Oprah's dogs. She recommends starting with the command the first time you lure them into it, using a slow, sing-songy voice. "Siiiiiiiiiiit". Then "good sit" when they finish, and treats and jackpots. She does not use a clicker as far as I can tell from her books.I add the command right away with a puppy that is likely to do the behavior. If I am not sure that they are going to do it right away I just lure and see. If they do it once or twice and I am sure they are going to do it again I add the behavior right away. I wait with older dogs and when we are doing a complex task until I know they are going to get it. Some trainers get the behavior and then immediately follow it with the word. I have never done this because I was always taught to say the word followed by the behavior. I think Dogs have a knack for picking up new behaviors regardless of how they are taught though and I have noticed that they can learn with just about any method or variation of method.
I didn't particularly like her book, The Loved Dog Method. It's okay, but not really precise enough for trick training, more for basic commands and manners. There are much better books and trainers out there, I just happened to see it on the shelf at our library.But how would she do that with a complex (chain) behavior? That works as long as it is a simple (one action) behavior
Ooh totally not meant negative, but a sincere question, tough I suspected it was only simple behavior.I didn't particularly like her book, The Loved Dog Method. It's okay, but not really precise enough for trick training, more for basic commands and manners. There are much better books and trainers out there, I just happened to see it on the shelf at our library.
Sorry, I just saw this post. It depends on what you are looking for in a book. I have been reading pretty much every dog book in our library system. Some I toss aside pretty quickly because I don't agree with their methods. Others I read through, but don't find anything new. Most of them are very similar to each other, just differences in personal style. Right now I am more interested in how to handle problem behaviors than how to teach tricks. I find videos of trick training better as I am a visual learner, but for problem behaviors, it's more about the psychology, so books are okay. I am reading an e-book called "The Dog Aggression System" by Jackie Ferrier. I really like it, because it is very specific to dealing with aggression, but it gives really helpful tips on day to day living with an aggressive dog. Of course, I have read "Culture Clash" by Jean Donaldson, which every dog owner should read (free online!), and "Click to Calm" by Emma Parsons. Also "The Cautious Canine" by Patricia McConnell. I really want to read Dr. Ian Dunbar's books, but our library doesn't have them. His website is great, though, with lots of articles and podcasts.Ooh totally not meant negative, but a sincere question, tough I suspected it was only simple behavior.
I have read multiple posts now from you about dog books, any that you can advise/like?
I can't stand it when people run along next to the dog while it's weaving saying "weave, weave, weave, weave, weave" or clapping the entire time.
Maybe that is the case.From what I understand people do that to excite the dog to get them to go faster, not because they feel that the dog needs to be told to weave through each and every pole.
This sometimes doesn't work though, because you then have to run next to your dog every time they weave telling them to weave. Even for dogs it 'works' for, I think finding a different way to make them drive forward would make more efficient.Maybe that is the case.
But the dog does not seem to go faster due to the clapping/"weaving" and I think if I did it to Holly she would find it very distracting.
But I guess different dogs must react differently.