Okay, this is going to sound really bad. All the lessons I've seen here are based on reward and I was wondering how bad you think the use of punishment is. Now before you all kick me out :msntongue: , I don't mean kicking your dog or hitting your dog with a stick and sending him flying or anything. For instance, when I caught the little rascal chewing on my shoes I gave him a little slap on the butt which sent him yelping away. I probably hurt his feelings more because I'm sure I didn't hit him that hard.