First of all sorry for my prolonged absence. At first I was very busy and then I wasn't feeling very well, so I've been off most activities for a while. I'm gradually trying to start doing stuff again, so maybe you'll see me more often :3. Also sorry about any typos/repetitions/stuff in my post, I don't have my contacts on and I'm guessing letters here (I can't even read the "Create Thread:" thing, I just know it's there). Today I need to tell somebody who understands about what happened, what always happens, what drives me mad every. single. time. I was with my family (mom, siblings, aunt, uncle, cousins, grandmothers) at my aunt's house. They have a dog, a 7 year old border collie with aggression issues. She has never injured anyone, so nobody takes her constant growling seriously. She growls at almost everyone. and is especially aggressive to what you could lump into dominant/aggressive gestures (smiling and showing teeth, staring, showing hands in a claw-like fashion, patting head, etc). So today my cousin was teasing her, making her growl and then shhhing her. Doing all those cesarmillanesque things, like staring in her eyes, putting his hand over her head, lowering her head, and doing stuff I would never think somebody in their right mind would do to a growling dog. So I tell him "I think you should stop doing that, she may bite you". But my aunt says "Nooo, she wouldn't bite! It would be very strange." Obviously, less than 10 minutes later, my cousin gets bitten. I-told-you-so. Dog gets kicked and yelled at, and gets a time-out too. Everyone keeps staring at her. I'm so, so sure this is a fear based aggression after everything I've seen. I can't believe this. The dog was getting kicked for biting after having been teased for at least 20 minutes. She is, after all, a very tolerant dog. After a while, when everybody seemed to calm down, I proceeded to explain why what they were doing was very rude rude to the dog (to avoid saying "completely unacceptable") and they were like "yeah, but she has to know it is even more rude to bite". And I was like, "well, but you can't stare at her like that with your hand on her head". And my aunt said "well, she'll have to learn to live with that!". And then goes on about how their dog can't dominate them and all. Ugh. The we all went back inside, and my cousin was last to get inside. I was watching him carefully, and what do you think he does? He kicks the dog again. I can't believe it. This hasn't been the first ot last time this kind of things happened. Hosen, my GSD x Husky mix, is a very anxious dog, very fearful. I can't work with him as I don't live with him. He's bitten the other dogs and even almost my mom in situations I had predicted only minutes earlier. Why can't people accept that, you know, I know a bit about this stuff? I'm not a complete expert, but I think I know when a dog is going to bite. They can't accept they can be wrong, so they ignore me and what happens? People get bitten, animals get bitten. They are lucky it's not a vicious attack, it's only fear based or redirected aggression in some cases. But some day, a dog will bite and hurt badly, and I would have said he was going to bite just minutes earlier. And then I will feel horrible about it. Because, that's it. Everybody thinks they know so much about dogs by watching two episodes from the Cesar Millan show. They are all sudden experts. I feel horrible. Sorry if this looks like a complete egocentric post, it sort of is, because I'm basically saying that nobody listens to me. The problem is, they don't listen to any other trainer either. And this has consequences. The major problem? The dog always looses.