Thankyou jackienmutts, I am hoping that she will be well mannered with all the training that I am doing. I can see a difference in her in the short time that I have had her, although we still have a way to go. I try to train a couple of times each day. I am also spending a few minutes touching her feet, ears and tail. She isn't liking it too much but each and every day I do it and she gets lot's of praise and treats for letting me have a paw in my hand for a second or two. I guess it's just a matter of time and she will realise that I will never hurt her. Your two look lovely too. How long have you had them and what ages are they? I was really surprised to find that people get shepherds without looking into the breed and end up giving them up as they don't know what to do with them once they are no longer puppies. There should be a government restriction or a test to pass before getting animals and then there wouldn't be so many in the shelters needing to be re-homed.