Looking For Any Advice

Discussion in 'Introduce Yourself' started by cfarris37129, Feb 14, 2009.

  1. cfarris37129 New Member

    Hello! New here. I have a 9 month old pit bull. His name is Tank. Now Tank knows sit,stay, lay down. My daughter even has him crawling for treats. But Tank only does this if he feels like it and not when we tell him to all the time. This can be very frustrating, especially if he is annoying guest. Any advice greatly apreciated

  2. tenniskitty Experienced Member

    Well, you have to make him know WHO'S BOSS in the household. In YOUR household. It's a pack thing, he thinks he owns you and you have to set him straight. Hope this helps!
  3. fickla Experienced Member

    I think a common problem with dogs don't responding to commands they "know" are:

    1. The dog has not generalized the command. Just because they are great in the kitchen, does not mean they know what you're talking about in the living room, backyard, etc. Also your body language plays a huge role, tone of voice, etc.

    2. Distractions. Many people neglect to prepare a dog for distractions and assume that just because he's good at home he will be good at Petsmart or when a guest comes over etc. Distractions are huge for dogs, especially a 9month old pup. You need to start slow and work your way up.

    3. Reward history. Dogs don't do things just because they love us, or because we said so. People don't do this, why should dogs. Dogs need to get paid, and with something they actually want to work for. If you up the distractions and they're not ready, you need to up the reward. Otherwise it would be like your boss giving you a gift certificate to perkins instead of giving you a check. When a dog is first learning something they should be continuously getting rewards, then they should either be kept on a cont schedule or moved to a random reinforcement schedule. don't make this leap to fast or the dog will get confused and stop responding. A reward doesn't always have to be treats, but it could be opening a door they want to go through, throwing a ball, tug, going for a tug, etc. I use a lot of life rewards, you want something then work for it.

    4. Discriminative Stimuli. Dogs are good at learning when they are going to get paid and wen they aren't. If you only reward when you have treats on you, and give nothing when you don't, it doesn't take a genius dog to realize when he has to listen. Start incorporating more life rewards into your daily routine. Also, start having your treats further and further away. For example, start by showing your dog a bag of treats on the table, walk a couple feet away, ask for a command and go to the table to get a treat. Gradually move far away and gradually stop showing the treats up front.

    5. Consistency. If you give a cue, you should be giving it in the same way every time. And more importantly, this should have a consequence if he doesn't listen. This doesn't mean abuse, it could simply mean that if he doesn't respond you withhold the treat, or turn your back on him, or... Don't sometimes make him sit for greetings and other times reward jumping. Or ignore barking for 10min before giving in and throwing the ball.

    While it is good to be a leader in your dog's eyes, I don't think dominance has anything to do while most dogs don't listen to their owners.
  4. snooks Experienced Member

    Very good response by fickla. The other common thing I see when dogs won't listen is that they have not faded giving treats for everything. Hence the dog doesn't feel the need to comply because he gets treats anyway all the time. The treat loses it's value since the dog think why? when I get the treat after I sniff all this stuff here before I do what she want.

    I might also pick up all the toys and give them when you are ready to play then put them back up when done for a few months. If you are a kind and benevolent controller of resources you'll get more respect.

    On one point I respectfully disagree. Dogs don't live in packs like wolves, they live in social groups with humans and clearly distinguish us from dogs. If you are consistent, and pay more attention and reward the behavior you DO want you are more likely to see it. Too often we fall into the habit of paying more attention to the dog when it's "naughty" and that is not what a consistent leader does. Note also that leader is VERY different from dominant. A leader does not dominate and does not need to.

    Last thought if you dog is truly not food motivated a toy or ball or tuggie may be a better reward for desired behavior than food.

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