Hi all, In the 6 months that we have had him, Russell has developed along the way 'dog unsurity'. As he is a rescue dog we don't know his full background, and the rescue kennels that he was in from 4 months onwards (possibly a key socialisation period?) DID NOT socialise their dogs with play, joint walks or any training. So, I'll try and give a brief outline of what happened after we took him home in terms of other dogs. Although I am keen to look to what we can do with his presenting behaviours as they are NOW it might be helpful. Looking over what I have written, I am sad to say I can see some massive mistakes where I feel I have failed to protect Russ and put him some horrible situations...no wonder he is now saying "errr....I REALLY am not keen to be aroundthese other dogs now" -Initially Russell seemed to be able to do '3 second hello' with other dogs and *seemed* happy to see them, often pulled to 'say hello' when they were near. -We sent Russell to 'daycare' to encourage socialisation and off lead play with other dogs. We got glowing reports from the owner about Russ, saying that he was "a star". On the first or second time after returning from daycare noticed a bite mark on Russell's muzzle initially owner said he got hurt by a stick and then when we went to see him next time said in conversation that it was a bite from another dog. (The daycare arrangement seems quite informal...we phoned around initially and all but this one would not accept bull breeds or Staffies). -Russ would play with other dogs off lead sometimes but his style of play seemed "rude/ no manners" (run up to anyone even dogs who did not want to play when they were off lead, not know when to stop, 'necking' other dogs). Particularly older female dogs seemed to not like this and sometimes "tell Russ off" with a low growl. Also, another thing to note, ashamedly we were not picky with which dogs we let Russ play with. -Unsure when exactly his reactivity on lead began (will check with Russ' other Mum as she is waay better with dates). Have a feeling it was when he entered adolescence. At this time as novice owners we were 'on our own' trying to follow Cesar's methods.... ...sad to say 'slip leash collar checks' abound for poor Russ-bear. -In May this year after Russ had just turned one year old we enrolled in a 6 week positive only basic obedience course. He knew most 'basic obedience' by then but the aim was to increase Russ' positive on lead interactions in the proximity of other dogs without lunging. After a few weeks when he seemed to be initially lunging due to being very exitable to anything and everything at training, Russ settled down and worked well in class and seemed to work and walk relatively close to ther dogs on lead, but we could not usually sit verry close to another dog. (There was one occasion where he barked and I had to take him out of class and a week where we had to practise walking in calmly without lunging, going in and out of the hall.) Now we use all positive methods with Russell as he came on leaps and bounds. -At this time Russ had two dogs which he played off lead with when we saw them and there were no other odgs around. He seemed to play more "nicely", chasing and not necking and not as intense. -Since then Russ' reactivity when seeing another dog has seemed to increase. We had a one to one behaviour session with one of the trainers who led the obedience course in July where the aim was to illustrate how to work below threshold and give treats for Russ looking at another dog and remaining calm by me. The dogs used were the trainers own and they were sitting Still whilst Russ walked up to them. Managed to get to about 5 feet. -Around this time we continued this type of training of looking at dogs every day and Russ even managed a 'walk past' on a few occasions and threshold *seemed* to be decreasing. There have been some emergency situations that we cannot control and the dog has been far too near resulting in Russ' hackles going up and him lunging. Although there have been occasions where we are unsure if we are treating at the wrong moment (where Russ has a gone a little bit past threshold) because we were just happy he was looking at a dog and *seeming* to be OK. -Russ was still attending day care for maybe one or 2 days at a time when we needed him looking after. Russell at this time was playing well off lead with his friend a very polite spaniel when we sometimes saw them at the park and looking at other dogs, treating. At this point we had been having doubts as to whether daycare had been contributing to Russ' anxieties around other dogs -Last week we left Russ in daycare for 4 days when on holiday. When he came back I took him for his first walk 2 days ago and he seemed *super super* anxious. His hackles were going up even when a dog barked somewhere in the distance and he seemed on edge even when he saw a woman with her shopping bags. On this walk so many negative things happened with other dogs that we couldn't control (I have posted more about this particular walk in Mary K's thread 'Tantrum Over Reaction'). Basically culminating with poor Russ with his tail between his legs, lunging being rushed and barked at by two off lead dogs for at least 3 mins while we were on our own in a field trying to get away and owners nowhere to be seen. Myself and Russell's other Mum (Sarah) have made a commitment that we are going to aim to keep Russ safe from now on and help him change his mind about other dogs. For the past 2 days we have been aiming to keep walks chilled out with attention exercises and avoiding other dogs. Any ideas would be helpful but this is what we have got so far: No more daycare due to possible unsupervised 'squabbles' which Russ has to defend himself from unknown dogs. Going back to square one with working right below threshold and treattreattreat for looking at other dogs staying calm. No more than Russ can handle and going SLOWLY, never 'testing' him (which we have done in the past). How do other people do this? Clicking and treating or no clicking? Wondering which will be best for Russ - I use clickers to train tricks, any ideas whether this would be a good association when Russ sees another dog or would it 'de-charge' the clicker for trick training? I am due to buy some liver treats online to reserve only for when dogs appear so its a for Russ. Looking to buy a 'treat bag' or dispenser - anyone have any recommendations? Do you think they are good or do they only indicate to dogs "presence of treat bag equals food..rather than presence of other dogs equals food" (I have seen this written)? As we are trick training twice per day and training around other dogs and have had enough of smelly coat pockets and hoodie pockets. Any other ideas would be really really helpful Thanks everyone so much for reading what I know has been a long post. It has helped me to list it all to realise we are probably at fault and may have put our Russ-bear in situations where he could only have associated dogs with negativity or anxiety . I know there will be bad days and set backs but we owe it to Russ. It really inspires me to think that people on here have helped their dogs and would love to know how they have done it, how long it took, what helped, where your dog started. Thanks so much Helen, Sarah and Russell -photos of Russ-bear to follow soon...!