Just One Day Aritcle

running_dog

running_dog

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That is a really good idea... I wonder if they do that in the UK?
I've never heard of it before.

I might be wrong but I feel attitudes in the UK are ahead of the USA on no kill policies. For instance we have a lot of local rescue groups in my area and they try to spring dogs from the local pounds if they are at risk of being put down, one of the councils has an agreement with a no kill shelter, another of the local councils pays for strays to be kept longer so they get a chance to be re-homed and also has a facebook page where they list dogs they take in. But maybe that is just my suburban area, I don't know. There are still dogs PTS, I guess the more urban the area the harder it is to cope with the number of strays that are found :cry:.
 
southerngirl

southerngirl

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running_dog said:
That is a really good idea... I wonder if they do that in the UK?
I've never heard of it before.

I might be wrong but I feel attitudes in the UK are ahead of the USA on no kill policies. For instance we have a lot of local rescue groups in my area and they try to spring dogs from the local pounds if they are at risk of being put down, one of the councils has an agreement with a no kill shelter, another of the local councils pays for strays to be kept longer so they get a chance to be re-homed and also has a facebook page where they list dogs they take in. But maybe that is just my suburban area, I don't know. There are still dogs PTS, I guess the more urban the area the harder it is to cope with the number of strays that are found :cry:.
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It depends were you are in the USA. Such as my shelter in Gwinnett county holds the dogs as long as they possibly can, they contact rescues trying to get them out of the shelter, they have a Facebook page, and really dedicated volunteers. My pound is amazing and really cares about getting the animals out. The rescue groups also pull from shelters all around Georgia. My cat that I got from Gwinnett County was there for 2 months, way over his time plus he had bite someone. I don't know how other pounds are in the U.S, but I imagine the ones with money and dedicated volunteers are great, while the ones with little money aren't doing well. There are even railroads that allow dogs in rescues and pounds to be adopted out of the State they are in. From what you say it sounds like they are about equal in trying to save the animals. Like you mentioned it really depends on your area to how well the shelters are doing.
 
running_dog

running_dog

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southerngirl said:
Like you mentioned it really depends on your area to how well the shelters are doing.
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I'm glad there is more of a no-kill attitude than I thought... I love the idea of railroads allowing dogs to be transported out of state :cool:.

What feels different about here is that a lot of our no kill rescues are just that, they NEVER kill a healthy dog, even if the dog stays there for years and years. Dogs Trust (a national UK organisation with 19 centres around the UK) even has a compound at one of their centres for dogs that can't cope with people - they live in a group in a kind of dog park and (except for health and hair) they don't have to have anything to do with people unless they choose to!
 
elissa

elissa

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running_dog said:
Dogs Trust (a national UK organisation with 19 centres around the UK) even has a compound at one of their centres for dogs that can't cope with people - they live in a group in a kind of dog park and (except for health and hair) they don't have to have anything to do with people unless they choose to!
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I've visited there! It wasn't too far away from where I used to live in the UK and it was a lovely thing to see!
 
Ripleygirl

Ripleygirl

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That is a great article! Just wish more thought like that! There are a lot of 'good' shelters here in the UK - such as the Dog's Trust as Running_dog said, I think we are kinda lucky here and there are many good people willing to put there time and effort into no kill shelters and cases that need the backup of no kill.
 
MaryK

MaryK

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Beautiful article:) It's growing here, but still behind the States and the U.K. What is saddest is that two of the leading Shelters, R.S.P.C.A. and Animal Welfare are both kill shelters. They're the ones most people turn to first and also the ones who charge the highest amount for the animals who are lucky enough to be adopted. They're the only ones who can afford T.V. advertising too.

The Shelter I adopted Ra Kismet from was a No Kill and the lady who runs the shelter doesn't receive any government funding at all. And to make things even harder for her, the R.S.P.C.A. stepped in and took away a number of dogs, some still in quarantine, one healthy dog who had had to have her leg amputated and others in similar circumstances. Not only did they remove the dogs, breaking her heart, but followed up by prosecuting her because some of the pens where not concreted. These pens were really lovely though, very large with big shady trees and a large shelter building. Much healthier and better for the dogs than the cell like pens the R.S.P.C.A. have.

Leaf also came from a No Kill organizations, who did receive some very good publicity from a very popular television show. Unfortunately, to date, not much activity planned this year in South Australia to advertise them. I've emailed the organizer here, to date, no reply. Not sure what is happening in other States, as this organization is Australia Wide.

I understand that the R.S.P.C.A. is changing their policy, especially the one determining if a dog was suitable for adoption, but it's very slow, too slow!:( And their criteria is such that a lot of dogs, who would make great companions with a little training, don't pass their 'test'. Which, from what I've been told, is ridiculously high!

Plus the law in some States has made it harder for rescue organization to remove animals from kill shelters. But they find a way around that;)
 
running_dog

running_dog

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MaryK said:
Beautiful article:) It's growing here, but still behind the States and the U.K. What is saddest is that two of the leading Shelters, R.S.P.C.A. and Animal Welfare are both kill shelters.
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The RSPCA is the one blot in our area also. Some years ago my sister found a stray and tried to take it to the RSPCA but they told her they were putting their own dogs down (whatever that meant). Their adoption fees are much greater than Dogs Trust (which somehow still manages to never kill a healthy dog). As an organisation they currently seem more interested in power, politics and prosecutions than real animal welfare and I will not give money to them.

RSPCA and power to prosecute (too much power corrupts?)
RSPCA and prosecutions (persecutions?) of small animal sanctuaries (The RSPCA is still killing 53,000 animals annually in the UK and apparently is happy with that)

I do have a rather hilarious story of an RSPCA incident. When a friend had a very old and skinny cat it was kidnapped by a woman accusing him of cruelty. She refused to believe it was being treated by a vet, even refused to believe the vet existed, and reported my friend to the RSPCA. An inspector collected the cat, doubtless making sympathetic noises to the woman, drove along the road and handed the cat to my friend! The inspectors are often very good. It is the organisation that has gone wrong.

They really should get involved with the "just one day" campaign, after all they are expert campaigners why not put a bit of extra effort into homing the animals they would otherwise kill?
 
Ripleygirl

Ripleygirl

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My sister-in-law was out walking her dog and heard meowing, she investigated and found three kittens in a cat cage that had been dumped next to the river where she was walking, she took them to the RSPCA and the lady on the reception said that they had been brought in by a person about an hour previously and the RSPCA had told her they had no room but could give her a crate for them and she could take them away again. This was the crate that my sister-in-law had found them in, dumped and abandoned not long later... When she had taken them to the RSPCA she did not know this and as soon as she heard that she walked back out with them and still has them now as adult cats and they are lovely cats... who would have perished in a nasty long starving death if she had not found them dumped there in the travel cage, which I think is even worse than the RSPCA actually taking them and then putting them to sleep (which is bad enough in its self!). She will not ever take anything to the RSPCA again...
 
running_dog

running_dog

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southerngirl said:
https://www.gwinnettcounty.com/portal/gwinnett/Departments/Police/AnimalWelfareandEnforcementNew
Here's a link to my shelters page you can see that they have someone taking good pictures of the dogs trying to up there chances of getting adopted. In just one day for a festival they had 34 animals were adopted. I feel really lucky to live in a county that cares so much about their animals.
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I'm impressed, you do live in a county which really cares for their animals, our pounds/councils don't usually go to that much effort to get the dogs adopted, 34 animals in one day is brilliant. I love how they try to beat their own rehoming record so they are always trying to do better (y).

Middlesbrough council is the only council near me that I'm aware of being really active in rehoming through their Facebook page.
 
MaryK

MaryK

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running_dog said:
The RSPCA is the one blot in our area also. Some years ago my sister found a stray and tried to take it to the RSPCA but they told her they were putting their own dogs down (whatever that meant). Their adoption fees are much greater than Dogs Trust (which somehow still manages to never kill a healthy dog). As an organisation they currently seem more interested in power, politics and prosecutions than real animal welfare and I will not give money to them.

RSPCA and power to prosecute (too much power corrupts?)
RSPCA and prosecutions (persecutions?) of small animal sanctuaries (The RSPCA is still killing 53,000 animals annually in the UK and apparently is happy with that)

I do have a rather hilarious story of an RSPCA incident. When a friend had a very old and skinny cat it was kidnapped by a woman accusing him of cruelty. She refused to believe it was being treated by a vet, even refused to believe the vet existed, and reported my friend to the RSPCA. An inspector collected the cat, doubtless making sympathetic noises to the woman, drove along the road and handed the cat to my friend! The inspectors are often very good. It is the organisation that has gone wrong.

They really should get involved with the "just one day" campaign, after all they are expert campaigners why not put a bit of extra effort into homing the animals they would otherwise kill?
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Thank you for the articles. Sadly, seems the R.S.P.C.A. at home is the same as here:( Absolute power corrupts absolutely! And like here they're not short of a quid, which most private people or privately run shelters don't have a lot off! Same as here, I saw their figures and I too refuse to give to them. Get's me some very dark looks by passers by when they're doing a street stall/collection but tough! I'll not support an organization which behaves in the manner they do! I agree they should be involved in the 'just one day' campaign!

That's priceless. Yes, some of the inspectors are really genuine decent people. Glad that was one case with the skinny cat!

I came under their ire not so long back. A neighbor reported my dogs for barking continuously at 3.a.m. in the morning! My dogs are asleep in bed at that hour! But the R.S.P.C.A. went around to everyone, did NOT contact me and next thing I had a letter threatening me saying that they would FORCE me to have my dogs de-barked! You can imagine my reaction - not happy at all with either the R.S.P.CA. or neighbors. Fought and won, not in court thank goodness, but still very upsetting at the time. Spoke politely to the neighbor who's dogs were the culprits, they totally denied it, which was interesting as it's hard to mistake a couple of Rotties yodeling their heads off at 3.a.m. when they're right outside your bedroom window!
 
MaryK

MaryK

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Ripleygirl said:
My sister-in-law was out walking her dog and heard meowing, she investigated and found three kittens in a cat cage that had been dumped next to the river where she was walking, she took them to the RSPCA and the lady on the reception said that they had been brought in by a person about an hour previously and the RSPCA had told her they had no room but could give her a crate for them and she could take them away again. This was the crate that my sister-in-law had found them in, dumped and abandoned not long later... When she had taken them to the RSPCA she did not know this and as soon as she heard that she walked back out with them and still has them now as adult cats and they are lovely cats... who would have perished in a nasty long starving death if she had not found them dumped there in the travel cage, which I think is even worse than the RSPCA actually taking them and then putting them to sleep (which is bad enough in its self!). She will not ever take anything to the RSPCA again...
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That's appalling!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think we could have a separate post on the R.S.P.CA. nefarious dealings!

So very happy the story has a happy ending and the kittens are in a well loved home! That's wonderful!:D
 
MaryK

MaryK

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southerngirl said:
https://www.gwinnettcounty.com/portal/gwinnett/Departments/Police/AnimalWelfareandEnforcementNew
Here's a link to my shelters page you can see that they have someone taking good pictures of the dogs trying to up there chances of getting adopted. In just one day for a festival they had 34 animals were adopted. I feel really lucky to live in a county that cares so much about their animals.
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Thank you Danielle:) That's fantastic what they're doing for the animals! You're very lucky to live in a country which cares so much about the animals. Great activities planned, way to go Gwinnett!

btw. Did the 'fatal' thing, had a look at the dogs for adoption. So many beautiful dogs, really tugs the heart strings.
 
southerngirl

southerngirl

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MaryK said:
Thank you Danielle:) That's fantastic what they're doing for the animals! You're very lucky to live in a country which cares so much about the animals. Great activities planned, way to go Gwinnett!

btw. Did the 'fatal' thing, had a look at the dogs for adoption. So many beautiful dogs, really tugs the heart strings.
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Yes the dogs are beautiful and so many dogs that are most likely purebred American Pit Bull.
 
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