Raw Feeders - Vegetables Or No Vegetables?

I've been feeding Jukes raw food for 1.5 years now. I follow the ration of 80:10:10 - meat:organ:bone.

For example this week he had:
1. Beef brisket
2. Lamb Shank
3. Chicken Backs
4. Goat kidney and goat heart
5. Whole Rabbit
6. Mackerel
7. Beef liver and tongue

Last week he had:
1. Whole Duck
2. Venison heart
3. Lamb shank
4. Sardines
5. Goat ribs
6. Beef heart and liver
7. Pork hock and pig feet

He also gets one raw egg per week.
But after reading other posts it seems a lot of people seem to have much less meat and more vegetables and starch. What vegetables if any do you give and what are the benefits of these to the dogs? Also what's the benefit of starch for the dogs - is there any

Thanks for any answers

What about Alfalfa and kelp powder - is this any good?
Fish liver oils? - I feed fresh whole fish once a week, so I think they get oil from that but I though I'd ask anyway.
Yoghurt/Cottage Cheese - are these in any way beneficial - there is so much stuff on the internet - it's hard to know what to believe.
Also some people feed eggs every day - is once a week okay

Sorry for all the questions, I'm just trying to figure out whether I'm missing something crucial or not.

We feed raw, but we are also a no veggie household. In the prey model diet (the 80/10/10 you mention) Veggies are not needed! Even when my dogs are given whole prey, they shake out the intestines, which is where barf feeders claim that veggies come into a wild canids diet. I feed eggs maybe once weekly, and always have a fish based meal once a week. Other than that, no supplements! It is wonderful what a simple natural diet can do for your dog, isn't it?

I dont fully feed raw to my dogs. My ferrets eat raw and granted they cant digest anything but meat, they never get veggies. My dogs wouldnt either if they were on a fully raw diet, except treats, and then only carrots. Less mess then other treats. But nothing but meat in the staple diet.

We don't really feed veggies either, Occasionally i'll blend up all our left overs and add it in, but she would eat around any chunks of veg. She doesn't get any supplements, she has eggs and occasionally the odd squirt of garlic puree... supposedly it keeps fleas away.
At grandmas she's allowed to have the left over veg but again she doesn't often eat them. She does however love fruit! She adores apples and blackberries and used to eat banana's but seems to have gone off them.
As Foolishness and Fluff said about taking out intestines, Oka did this with her whole rabbit too....i believe i read somewhere that Wolves don't eat the stomach or intestines either.

Ash has been eating raw now for about six weeks. The only thing I don't like is that its hard to find a location that makes both of us happy. This morning he came in with a chicken leg that he had obviously buried and when I shooed him back outside with it he happily gobbled it up. Unless I'm babysitting another dog who looks interested in what Ash is eating, he objects to having to eat in his cage. Sometimes I wonder if he's refusing to eat because of the cage. Any suggestions?
I do toss him a veggie occassionally, more as a treat and its usually a baby carrot of brocolli stem. I haven't tried fish yet, and although I'm not worried about it, sometimes he'll refuse a meal. When he does I find myself worrying about whether he likes this as much as I do because it would be a whole lot cheaper to feed kibble. Sunday, I noticed my shopping list only had one item on it for me and the rest was for either the dog or the parrot!

I'll try that. I know if he's hungry he'll eat and he's never been a great eater. Is it possible he just goesn't like raw? I bought a freezer just for him and if I have to go back to kibble it will be his new house; with or without the cold!

JoAnne- It's good to hear that Ash is doing well! Maybe an old blanket or towel can be placed where he wants to eat instead of in his crate? It could be that the crate is causing him enough stress that he doesn't want to eat.

Sara- A person can eat junk food their whole life such as a dog can survive off of anything. It doesn't mean it is as healthy as it could be. Just saying. Also, I'd caution on too many fruits especially with smaller dogs like yours as it's sometimes too much sugar for their bodies and can make them sick.[/quote]

Thanks for the replies everyone!
I think I'll just carry on with what I'm feeding (Jukes's coat is nice and he appears happy and healthy), perhaps adding more meats if I find any - we got some llama organs today - I'm quite excited about trying them!

Your menu looks great to me. I do not feed any fruits or vegetables, personally. I feed meat, bone and organs and add fish and coconut oils and some other supplements to help with immune support and coat health but that is it.

I agree too, the menu looks great but I would definately look into more oily fish - I am lucky as my hubby is a charter boat skipper therefore we have fish constantly on offer for nothing but is does wonders for Ripley's coat and we give some to other dog owners in the area too. Small strips of freshly caught Mackerel are my personal favourite as the oils in Mackerel are very good for her coat but smal strips of any fish are good as long as they are fresh enough. She also eats veg and fruit as training treats as she seems to love them..! I have also noticed that when I haven't given her some veg or fruit she eats grass (she is never sick after it so this is not the reason) but if she has some carrots, swede, apple, radish, peach, brocolli or cauli stalk etc she does not eat grass. This is just her though, my previous dogs although fed raw would not touch veg although they would eat a little bit of apple if they were wind fallen off the apple trees. I never tried to push fruit or veg on any of my dogs but do favour a raw diet, it just happens that Ripley, personally, seems to need a bit of fruit and veg - much to my surprise after my last dogs!

One of my collies, Tess (sadly now departed) would actually wolf through her food and any peas or anything we had stuck in there she would take into her mouth in gob fulls as she eat it all down and then pop them out one-by-one like a little popper gun - absolutely hilarirous! It still makes my chuckle now..!

Yeah, Ripleygirl,i think fish is great for dogs, too.

my dog disliked fish at first, and i eat fish alllllllll the time.
But, i found out he liked warm, freshly grillled fish.

and overtime, he got so accustomed to fish, that he can now eat room temperature, or even cold fish now.

My hubby's sister's dog would not eat the fish we brought off the boat but cut in to strips (and obviously boned, as the bones can get caught in a dog's throat) and microwaved for 30 seconds and now he loves it and his coat is much better than is was. He is a very short coated lurcher x and had a dandruff problem and that is gone completely now he has fish every so often.