Training Methods?

Discussion in 'Obedience Training' started by mtagntz, Sep 6, 2012.

  1. mtagntz Active Member

    I do not want to start a huge argument, that being said I am wondering what methods people use here. I have seen some different methods discussed.

    Is this a "balanced" training website, or does it tend to sway one way or another?

    Melinda and Thor
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  2. Adrianna & Calvin Experienced Member

    Hi Melinda.
    It's reward-based only. No shocking, choking, pinching, intimidation.
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  3. mtagntz Active Member

    Ok, cool :)
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  4. jackienmutts Honored Member

    Just curious ... what do you mean by a "balanced" site?
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  5. mtagntz Active Member

    Some sites I go to seem to have two sides that argue about training methods. Some are more for the dominance theory, and others are for the operant conditioning and whatnot.

    It gets old and some of the harsher methods are triggering for me and I like to avoid them.
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  6. Adrianna & Calvin Experienced Member

    The term 'balanced training' has been taken on by people who use both positive reinforcement and positive punishment; there is usually a lot of blather about how they use positive reinforcement plus 'consequences' for the dog. As if there are no consequences for dogs trained with reward-based methods. It's a strawman argument and very boring. They also say that every dog is different, so unless you've trained XYZ dog/dog breed you can't say squat; that they use a variety of methods to suit the dog and the situation, etc.

    For a more critical look at the doubletalk, check out:
  7. mtagntz Active Member

    Those are great articles, thanks! I especially like the second one. I understand that all dogs are different, but I do know that most respond to one style of training better than the other.
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  8. jackienmutts Honored Member

    Ah, gotcha. I guess in that case, we can proudly say we're not balanced. (y):LOL:
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  9. sara Moderator

    No we are purely +R/-P and I will stop training "discussions" flat, if it happens. We do not allow people to advocate the use of +P and "dominance theory"
  10. sara Moderator

    Kinda refreshing eh?
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  11. MaryK Honored Member

    Definitely not balanced trainers. I can testify to the fact that the dominance training doesn't work. Have two dogs, one an older dog suffering from Cushings, which does make him a bit 'grumpy' at times. The other a youngster. At times my youngster will get a bit 'over the top' with my older dog, resulting in a little growling. I just use either my click/treat or if not handy, a quiet 'shush boys' and leave them alone. All the anger vanishes and both lie quietly down.

    Partner is still a bit 'old school' leader of the pack. Strides in yelling and bellowing at both dogs. Result the anger issues escalate into, as happened the other night, almost a fight situation.

    So much for the 'leader of the pack' - it just doesn't work, not at all, not one bit! Positive Reinforcement Training is the ONLY right way to train a dog. And hopefully misguided partners!
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  12. MaryK Honored Member

    Hear Hear Sara!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Would really hate to see dominance theory on this site!
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  13. Amateur Experienced Member

    I would even dare to say some of us *cough *Dogster*cough* are more unbalanced
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  14. Dogster Honored Member

    Yes we're all postitve.:) We don't believe in all the nonsense corrections, dominance theory, pack leader, and all the other stuff. Can't get better than this, I must say.:D

    Oh shut up, Amateur.:rolleyes::D:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
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  15. MaryK Honored Member

    And our dogs are living, breathing, very happy, loving proof of the Positive Reinforcement Training only!
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  16. Tâmara Vaz Experienced Member

    We are and will always be Positive Reinforcers!;)
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  17. Puppylove Well-Known Member

    I'm Positive all the way....
  18. Evie Experienced Member

    Positive of course. But I must admit to verbally 'correcting' my dog when she gets herself into potentially dangerous situations. Aka, nipping at my horses hind feet. The horses tend not to appreciate the crazy little ball of black and white when she does that..
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  19. Tâmara Vaz Experienced Member

    As I see my horses not many times, I decided to stay with horses or with Laika. Laika has no idea horses can kick...
    I must admit ,also, to verbally 'correcting' my dog sometimes, but I don't think this makes us no positives....
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  20. dogcrazy Experienced Member

    I am also with positive reinforcement!!
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