Soooo, How many of us have heard of this? I was google searching for help with Oka offlead as despite spending ages on her recall, we have managed a brilliant garden recall, a reasonable no-distraction public recall and no gain on the dog/wildlife recall. I never expected brilliance over night but we've been going at it for nearly 10 months. I found a site written by Neil Sattin (link is for the page i found). I read this site through and thought "wack jobs!!" being the 'moose'?! really . Left it at that for ages. But i went back to it about 2 weeks ago, and read, and read, then went to Lee Charles Kelley site, great page on doing Alpha rolls - read it before you think i've gone to the 'dark side'!! and read more, youtubed it watched videos. I figured that in the end doing this "pushing" thing isn't going to physically harm Oka so we'll give it a go. This hasn't given her perfect recall overnight (though it might have been nice!!) BUT we have seen a change in her. She is more affectionate, laying next to me (which was happening before) but shes gone from laying her head on my leg for a couple of minutes to falling asleep touching me for 30 minutes. She is more attentive to what i say, she walks better i don't have to reposition her so often. She is calmer during exciting moments, and looks to me more for direction in these times. We were walking in a forest and a dog suprised us, managed to capture FDs lead, OH lead him away. But Oka, dog obsessed Oka, was called 3 times (not 5 or 10) and she came to me, pushed and continued on our walk, even though she could have run back - and normally would have!!! I was walking her back from the vets and there was a dog running with it's owner (distraction level 11) and Oka was on high alert staring at the dog, when she looked for a new focus for her energy i called her to push, which she did, then we tugged and we carried on walking, she went straight into nice walking and completely came down off her "high", though the dog was visible. Normally she would have been straight back to standing at the end of her lead in alert. I hoping things will continue to improve, especially when the evenings and mornings get lighter. I can move away from the garden (not the best place to do it).