Herding!

Discussion in 'Dog Sports' started by Sara Carson, Jun 23, 2012.

  1. Sara Carson Experienced Member


  2. SD&B Experienced Member

    Looks like Hero has a natural herding instinct, as well as being a natural at dock diving.

    Looks like you're having a fun weekend.
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  3. Anneke Honored Member

    Wow, that's great!!
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  4. Dogster Honored Member

    Hero is a natural!!!! That's awesome that he got certified!!!!:)
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  5. tigerlily46514 Honored Member

    Adorable!! I wonder what the rational was for no video?
    Great pics, but i would have enjoyed if you could have captured one of Hero doing the classic pose with head lowered, and front shoulders lowered a bit, like stalking, but, i can imagine, with a fast dog like Hero, that would have been a hard shot to get!:ROFLMAO:

    It does look like Hero has "The Eye" though!! :D HOW FUN!!
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  6. jackienmutts Honored Member

    Congrats Sara - I can imagine how proud you must be of Hero!! I'm thinking he's your Hero right about now, huh? Extra cookies for him tonight!!! (y)
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  7. southerngirl Honored Member

    Congratulations Sara C. Hero did awesome. He's a natural at this and dock diving
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  8. doglover1234 Active Member

    Awesome! Hero is a natural!!:)
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  9. fly30 Experienced Member

    Sara, this is a very nice present you made to your dog to have the opportunity to work on his instinct. It's difficult to see what happens with photos and I find it hard to see what your position was in this session. It's difficult to find where to stand at first. You need to lead the sheep, otherwise this will end up in a predation game. But your instructor will explain this better than me.

    Hope you will go on practicing herding, it's magic !
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  10. fly30 Experienced Member

    My main problem with Fly was distance and sensitivity. When I tried to have her keep her distance, I put too much pressure for Fly and she would run away. Then suddenly, who knows why, she understood there was nothing to fear and decided to keep her distance. Work is getting confortable. Thank you my lovely Fly.

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  11. MissyBC Experienced Member

    I've never had Missy try herding sheep, I doubt she ever will, as I don't want her thinking she's allowed to chase anything and everything in sight afterwards.

    I would get too worried that she would get hurt as well... and she's not used to being off leash yet (hopefully soon!!).

    She's two and we've worked on it since a pup. :) Problem is... she chases cars at the local unfenced park and chases squirrels in my unfenced backyard.

    She's getting much better though!

    Well done on Fly's herding video, Fly30! :) I love it.
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  12. fly30 Experienced Member

    Oh you know, Missy would not be taught to chase after sheep at all. It's actually the opposit. Herding teatches dogs to control their instinct and use it to serve their human leader. That's the reason why it has to be done with a professionnal who knows exactly what the dog and the human should learn.
    Herding is good for herding dog's mental and physical health. It helped Fly gain self confidence and strengten our relationship.
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  13. MissyBC Experienced Member

    What if you have small animals in the home? Would it still be a good idea? We have a cat (calico), who lives upstairs - wish she could live up and downstairs, but she doesn't like the dog yet. I'm going to try and work on their relationship. :)
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  14. fly30 Experienced Member

    You are the leader and you should decide whether she's allowed to "herd" the cat or not. Of course, they have to build their relationship if they are to live together. And they will probably do fine, you'll be there to make sure it's ok but you know, cats and dogs have similar calming signals and they should understand each other easily.

    Herding is a work, not a game, and no hunting. Herding is originally based on predation : sheep are good food. And only the leader should be allowed to touch the food, and who is the leader ? you of course ? So what's the dog's position ? A well driven working dog should not be allowed to hunt sheep, but gather them to his leader (you) so that he can eat (but of course you won't eat the sheep, but your dog doesn't know that). So in the end, your dog is learning to repect your position as a leader, his position as a good dog and make the difference between work and games. This is very evident with border collies who wear their tails up when they are playing and down when at work. Herding has no drawbacks in family life, this is certain.
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  15. fly30 Experienced Member

    By the way, Missy is beautiful (y)
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  16. MissyBC Experienced Member

    Thanks, Fly. Your pup is gorgeous too! :)

    Missy always wears her tail up... (she's a very happy dog) I guess that's a bit of a problem? Uh oh...
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  17. fly30 Experienced Member

    Oh no it's not a problem !!! Happy dog who loves playing :) Some dogs take time at herding, before they actually start working. My daughter got a rescue border collie lately. She took his to herd and he stood in front of the sheep in a game position (his bottom up) as if he was asking "do you want to play ?". After 2 sessions, he decided to be a bit more at work. He'll never be an extremely good herding dog but who cares ? My daughter and him are just having a good time. As long as the dog and the sheep are respected, no problem.
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  18. fly30 Experienced Member

    Venus, 10 months old, first herding day :)

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  19. fly30 Experienced Member

    Fly and I in a very risky sheep trip ! lol !
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