Another day, another unsuccessful attempt to get Ra Kismet to back. So far have tried using my hands on his sides - no luck - he gives me pee. Great and we do need that for his routine, but also need back. Or he just sits down plunk, never to move again! Getting him into a small area where any dog would back - again didn't work - he's very creative but back no way! He gives me right up (on hind legs) sit pretty, fall on his back in a screwed up heap (not something I want as he may hurt himself) or just an amazed look as if to say 'why are you 'crowding' me Mom?' Even tried using his soccer ball. Rolled it up to him, rather silly of me I guess, but I was getting desperate. All that did of course was set him off playing - but at least it got him of his bot which I thought had grown roots into the ground! Even Zeus, not a trick orientated dog at all, can do back, both walking and wiggling back on his bot! So I rather expected Ra Kismet to find it easy Not the case, seems back just doesn't enter into his vocabulary! Help!!!!! We need it as in one part of his chorrie he needs to back away, not sit pluncked down!