I have trained my BC mostly using clicker training and positive training. She will be three years old in a few months. I taught her basic commands and obedience with the clicker so at Obed class she already knew all the commands she was to learn there. All new obed. rally and agility, tricks etc. are taught positively usually with a clicker and either treats or a verbal marker and a toy. However, there have been a few things that we have not been able to overcome. We recently started seeing a new trainer. She uses positive training for the agility aspects but will do corrections for basic manner issues. The corrections are only used after the dog has a clear understanding of what is wanted and they are making a conscious choice to do something else. She will correct for recalls, not staying with the owner and walking on leash without pulling, and biting. Well we don't need to worry about the biting thing, but what do you all think of the others. We are using a prong for walking and corrections to stay with me and walk nicely. When she doesn't come when called she gets a scruff shake a stern talking to and then I step away and give her another chance to make the correct choice and I call her again and she usually comes then. She is a border collie and I have had many stock dog people tell me that if I am ever going to put her on sheep she will need to learn how to take a correction as she will inevitably get one somewhere along the line while working sheep. I understand this and that does make sense, she does take a correction well. While I wanted to remain purely positive in my training with her, I have to admit we have seen leaps and bounds of progress in the last few weeks since trying these new methods. We have gotten over hurdles that have troubled us for the past three years. Has anyone else combined these kinds of things, or is it very confusing for the dog. I guess part of it is that through the corrections and making sure I keep things black and white for the dog I have become a better leader. Any thoughts on this would be great.